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Tuesday, October 20, 2009

K-x Vs K-m (K2000) ISO Measurbation

Here is the full-size test sample gallery for measurbation (by Pentaxian "Devorama" who has both a K2000 and K-x), the background of the test has been briefed in his main page:-

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11899953@N02/sets/72157622477827457/

and also with more shooting information told in his post at the DPR:-

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=33396364

I think the dog JPEG shots are not easy to compare as the WB tones are quite different, although they are the only in-camera JPEG shots. The dog shots give us some idea on how the AWB and preset Tungsten WB of the two cameras behave under that lighting condition, though.

As for the RAW shootout for different ISO speeds, I prefer to inspect and compare the converted images with original Pentax software, i.e., Pentax Digital Camera Utility 4. For quicker and easier view and measurbation on those DCU converted pictures, I re-organise and tabulate them as follows:-

ISO
K-x
K2000 (K-m)
100

200

400
800
1600
3200
6400
Not Available
12800
Not Available
* Click on any of the pictures above will download the full-size original image - Warning: All Large Files!

My opinion? It seems both cameras are not bad in IQ and noise control/details retained. I still like the colours of the K-m better but the K-x is not that bad anyway. But one thing is just for sure, both cameras will blow K-7 out of the water so easily or just let the K-7 eating dust in the land as long as IQ is the utmost important thing under concern.

It would be interesting to see how different sensors could affect the IQ performance of different PENTAX DSLR bodies afterall!

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K-x is new Pentax leader in terms of noise/resolution
Anyway, K-m has better colours, better contrast.
Somma, I think you are all right! :-)
Rice, thank you very much for posting this. You say, both cameras are not bad in noise control/details retained. That's probably true. But, don't you think that the K-x is pretty much in a different league?
As far as colours and contrast are concerned: One can change that. Eather in the camera, or afterwards. But, lost details are forever lost ...
1 reply · active 803 weeks ago
Judging from the posted samples posted for this measurbation, I think the K-x performs pretty well. There is no serious loss of details nor the noise level is out of control.
wow, 6400 is the new 1600. :)
3 replies · active 803 weeks ago
Unbelievable? But, it's true! :-))
it will be fun! hehe
for $600 body only, $650 (+kit) we can got a very acceptable image at iso 6400 (might need just a bit of NR). Isn't it a steal? to get acceptable 6400 ISO usually we need to get a full frame like Canon 5D mk II.

I can't imagine if this camera fail. Pentax marketing should emphasize this advantage, especially in US.

then, Pentax just need to put the sensor to K7 and then, called it K7x or something. It will be a huge hit he he he..
I've heard about new firmware for K-7 which could lower noise at high ISO.
1 reply · active 803 weeks ago
I do hope so but however I don't believe in miracle.
Somma, how reliable is your sources that new firmware addressing noise in K-7 is in the making. I believe in miracle and I hope it is not a rumor.
@RiceHigh, thanks for posting the links and pictures comparing K-x and K-m. I see quite a good improvements in noise control in iso 3200.

Though I am no measurbator like you. I have to defend K-7 and K20D with your negative assessments from you. Noise control is only one attribute in the overall image quality. Though it is doubtful that a firmware can help K-7 in noise control, I would be very pleased if K-7 can be improved on noise in any positive way. Overall with the video, form factor, metering, all needed improvements on AF in the right direction, it is really the best digital camera ever produced in Pentax.

It is debatable to crown the "best" title to K-m and perhaps K-x as the flagship camera is really in K-7 with all the wonderful features and weather sealing for professional class and serious enthusiasts
not an expert, but can the seemingly lack of contrast in the k-x image be attributed to better dr?
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Real Engineer · 803 weeks ago

Hin Man,
When you take a photo with your K7 at high ISO, do you look at the histogram?
Mine consistently underexposes and the noise looks terrible due to that.
Bumping up the exposure may help you sort out your noise issues with your camera.
In one case it underexposed so badly that I had to bump up the EV to +2
Once I did that the picture at 6400 came out looking really good.

If I had to ask anything of a firmware update it would be to get more accurate exposure metering at high ISO.

Try checking your histogram, bump up your EV to expose to the right and then see what the picture looks like.
Hopefully it helps you get the same results I did.
I think these are great results for the k-x !

The level of detail on the k-x' 1600 image is almost as good as the k-m' 400. And the color in the k-x' image looks more natural. Anyway you can always boost up the saturation and contrast. I have the k-m and i an very unsatisfied with its iso, but i'm glad that pentax finally made a camera with quite decent high iso images.

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