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Wednesday, December 29, 2010

Yet a DA(L) 35/2.4 Review, with Crops and Samples



http://info.xitek.com/pzreview/xitektest/201011/25-54995.html

(in Chinese, English Translation Here (machine-translated))

Lens is tested at different apertures and 100% crops are shown. The lens was tested with a Pentax K-r. Bokeh are checked and wide opened shots are posted. And there are other "normal" sample shots of "real-life" as well.

In particular, look at those wide opened shots at f/2.4, and we would know why a larger aperture / faster lens is always desired if perfect bokeh is wanted:-



Note that the "circles" near the extreme boundaries of the frame (actually closer to the perimeter of the image circle) have become olive shaped owing to the blocking by the lens barrel. So, to get this effect disappeared completely, stopped down is required - typically for one to two stops, depending on the optical design. Hence, assuming that it requires 1.5 stops closed down for the aperture before perfectly round bokeh is obtained, we should not see this effect anymore at f/4, but then the DoF is greatly increased as a result.

In fact, the "blocking" effect for bokeh happens more often for zoom lenses which usually suffer more than primes, owing to a longer lens barrel for zooming which results in even more blocking for such a zooming design. It is therefore prime lenses are still required for more demanding purposes and this included, i.e., for all perfectly round bokeh for background highlights and objects. However, with small fastest apertures of many of those digital Pentax DA primes, this key prime lens advantage has been diminished, frankly speaking.

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illdefined's avatar

illdefined · 741 weeks ago

so why no mention of the fast FA primes that are still available? Again, you are selectively reporting.

the DA primes are for size and price, the FA primes all have bigger apertures but are bigger and more expensive because of it. Pentax gives us a choice.
5 replies · active less than 1 minute ago
What fast aperture FA primes are still available and in production now? I am sure that I own far more FA primes than what Pentax is selling by now!
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illdefined · 741 weeks ago

the FA Limiteds. and the FA 50 and 35 in some markets. you only selectively chose to speak negatively of the DA Limiteds.
So, there are only five of those. Frankly, I have just more than those all just for my EF lenses with my small Canon system!
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illdefined · 741 weeks ago

how many primes do you need? why not make a post comparing the size and prices of the EF and Nikkor primes with Pentax, though you may be forced to say some positive things for Pentax then.

btw, sounds like you're already 3/4 of the way to switching already, where is the post on the 7D and the final farewell to Pentax?
7D is not my cup of tea. The upcoming 5D Mk III would be, hopefully.

If I had to get the 7D, I would simply get a K-5 instead, or simply a 550D, if it had to be a Canon at least.
You are such a negative person RH!

Bokeh is very much a personal taste matter - sure there are general rules of what is considered as nice bokeh and what is ugly, but disregard a lens purely on it's bokeh is like, buying a Lamboghini and complaining about the boot is too small for your shopping.

aka THAT IS NOT THE POINT!!!!

This is a light weight, compact and relatively fast lens with good optical performance and a reasonable price. If those are not good enough for you and you only hang on to you bokeh then you might as well give up photography as a hobby,

Actually I think you are just purely a gadget/gear head, not a photographer.
1 reply · active 741 weeks ago
What "negativity"? I am talking about the Physics of Optics! >:-|
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J Viviano · 741 weeks ago

I think the point is, it is subjective whether olive shaped bokeh at the edge of the frame is a bad thing.

I see this on almost any lens that has no aspherical element, which actually tends to do worse things to the bokeh anyways (such as onion rings),
2 replies · active less than 1 minute ago
It is not related to the Aspherical element(s) of an optical design, it's just mainly with the diameter of the glass and lens barrel.

It's just simple Geometry and Physics after all, nothing more than that.

And of course, for *most* people, we want round bokeh throughout the frame, but not partially.
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illdefined · 741 weeks ago

it is a matter of size. thankfully we can choose the FA Limiteds for full-frame bokeh or the DA Limiteds for the smallest set of primes on the market, even smaller than some primes for mirrorles cams..

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