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Saturday, June 25, 2011

How is the PQ of the Pentax Q?

Below are the official illustration and comparisons about the PQ (Picture Quality) of the Pentax Q (called P-Q thereafter) against other cameras, as shown in one of the press conference at Japan, namely, the "Product D" and "Product E", for the ISO 200 and two ISO 6400 shots on the test target:-




(N.B.: I hope the Red Dot in the above Pentax Q Image is NOT a Hot Pixel! :-o)



I don't know what the products "D" and "E" are actually, I guess nobody even knows whether these are the products of Pentax or not, I think the comparisons are just intended to show that the PQ of the P-Q is good enough.

On the other hand, on the day of when the Pentax Q was announced after embargo had ended, the IR posted immediately their ISO measurbating samples at the following page of their P-Q preview:-

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/PENTAXQ/PENTAXQA7.HTM

However, the samples have been shortly withdrawn under the pressure of Pentax, as it is told in the above page, quoted:-

"We'd like to offer our apologies for taking down our page of half-resolution sample images from the Pentax Q; we received notice after publication that Pentax didn't want even reduced-resolution images from the Q prototype displayed, and we naturally respect their wishes."

In fact, I have previously gone through some of the samples and what I want to say is that the PQ of the P-Q is not bad by the DC standard but of course it is nothing that can be compared to the larger sensor ILDC systems nor DSLRs.

Besides, sometimes I just wonder, why Pentax/Hoya needs to be so conservative about the posting of the "unapproved" stuff. I still recall that Dpreview has posted so many times for the full size samples from many beta cameras including those from Canon and Sony. What to be afraid of and about? Simple ask the reviewers to make a remark for what posted are from beta cameras - end of case!

Update (6-26): Someone at the DPR Forum has previously made a comparison between the P-Q, NEX and the S95, the picture is self-explanatory. See:-


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I hope the red in the picture is the laser pointer of the presenter! Otherwise, that looks like a comet of hot pixels :)
1 reply · active 717 weeks ago
What precisely the laser pointer was used to point to? ;-) (But you seem to be right for that possibility.)
not bad from a small sensor camera
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Dissapointed · 717 weeks ago

Great new sales slogan.

"Pentax, Just Good Enough."
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Dissapointed · 717 weeks ago

Here's a few more for the non-existent marketing department at Pentax:

"Pentax, We Make Slow and Crappy Zooms."

or

"Pentax, Premium Prices for Poor Products."

or

"Pentax, Just Not Good Enough."

:(
4 replies · active 701 weeks ago
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Spellcheck. · 717 weeks ago

Dissapointed or disappointed? Near enough good enough?
When one is desperate, spelling could be wrong! ;-D
Yeah, and not only the spelling ;)
And the brain too...
The official test results comparing various cameras, without naming the cameras or details, is supposed to show that the Q is superior in its image quality? "Product D" and "Product E"? What a joke!! Such comparisons are totally useless and unreliable as a way of showing quality of anything. Pentax is insulting our intelligence, not only by trying to sell a stupid camera, but also saying we are gullible idiots.
2 replies · active less than 1 minute ago
They are certainly comparing with Danon and Eikon (or was it Dony and Eanasonic?)

Come on, you can say it's useless (and I agree, they could at least say something like 'typical premium compact camera' or even better, telling the sensor size); but they can't use their competitor's names!
How "certain"? We have no clue of any on what Products D and E actually are anyway!
Guys,
the Pentax marketing department you complain so much about has most probably defined the specs on the recent GPS add-on with astro-tracing. Can you really look into a mirror and say that marketing is crappy?
Pentax, with its WR bodies and lenses, the fantastic compact bodies and DA limited lenses, and the GPS is THE offering on the market for the outdoor semi-pro photographer. Name any other company with an offering of similar quality and features! There is NONE.
C
At low isos (up to 200) prints from my Nikon Coolpix 6000 are indistinguishable from my Nikon dslr. The sensor size debate is about the detail at higher isos. The modern dslr is a pain to carry around compared to film slrs, and a small camera is useful.
This new Pentax should be tested before condemnation, and compared with like, not dslrs with larger sensors.
2 replies · active less than 1 minute ago
I agreed with you that we should give it a chance to be tested but the price tag that was set by Pentax leaves many of us no choice to compare it with DSLR as the price is on the same level as Pentax K-r with kit lense....
The point is darn near any quality P&S will produce good 8x10 prints at low ISO's in decent light. Hell, the camera in my phone does. So with all the premium P&S currently out there, why would I pay a premium for this one? That's the question that Pentax marketing has to answer, and so far hasn't.
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Mike Lambert · 717 weeks ago

Nobody ever tried to say the quality of the "Auto110" was anything like 35mm. But it was a fun, take anywhere camera that gave you a bit more control than a typical point and shoot camera of the time. I see the "Q" as being in the same genre. It certainly has the form factor, I like the extended pop flash and function dial, all pretty neat. If the IQ turns out to be acceptable quality I may well get one!

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