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Thursday, November 22, 2012

DxOMark for K-5II is Out

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Publications/DxOMark-Reviews/Pentax-K5-II-Showing-the-competition-how-it-s-done/Comparisons

Same overall score as the K-5, but with slightly better sub-scores. All in all, no big differences.

Still, I am quite sceptical to those DxOMark results. As it is stated, the K-5 and K-5II is one mark ahead of the Canon 5D MkIII, which I also have. I have been using both cameras extensively for months already up till now. In practice, I yet found the 5D3 is better in IQ than the K-5 in almost every aspect, except the DR, which the DxOMark test result for this should be true. Btw, here are two old head-to-head tests of mine between the two cameras. Go figure out yourself!

1. My 5D3 Vs K-5 Realworld Shootout

2. 5D3 Vs K-5 ISO Shootout (100 to 25600)

In particular, the red colour smear of the K-5 images is so obvious and its sensor and image engine combo is just unable to handle these situations well, whilst the 5D3 performs far better in similar cases. The 5D3 also wins in more detailed and accurate colour rendition and in resolution, too, of course.

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Maybe DXO *does* have an idea of what a test should be, and maybe they are not biased against whatever Pentax does...
1 reply · active 642 weeks ago
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Gabriel Fontes · 642 weeks ago

"In practice, I yet found the 5D3 is better in IQ than the K-5 in almost every aspect, except the DR, which the DxOMark test result for this should be true."
Well, DXO shows that 5D mark III is almost a stop better in high iso...
Maybe overall the K-5II's image quality is better, indeed.
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homo faber · 642 weeks ago

Rice, would you comment on your earlier predictions about the same sensor capabilities of K-5 and K-5 II? :)
7 replies · active 642 weeks ago
Commented already. Please read again.
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homo faber · 642 weeks ago

I mean statements You made before Dxomark test was out.
As far I remember, You complained a couple of weeks ago about Pentax failing to deliver new sensor quality with new K-5 II and K-5 II s. Am I right?
Now, as we know the score of K-5 II and had the possibility to study RAWs from K 5 II and K 5 IIs, it is almost certain, that K 5 II S will be much better as the old K-5.
So I think, Pentax managed to make a good progress with better AF, improved shake reduction and better sensor performance.
Much better? The differences in subscores are moderate and the overall mark is the same. Com'n, man!
Well Rice - if you include the K-5 IIs in DP Review's comparison chart, the IIs actually looks less noisy to my eyes.
I don't think so. The cropped images looked at pixel level are not that smooth actually.
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homo faber · 642 weeks ago

Not K-5 II, but K-5 II s will be "much better".
No problem, just imagine it!
DxO measure RAW performance, they don't care about JPGs at all, so your "red smearing" is means nothing, and your JPG comparisons are completely useless in this case.
8 replies · active 642 weeks ago
So you can continue to shoot RAW and PP and I will just opt to shoot JPEG for most cases. BTW, if I had to shoot RAW for every picture, I would have used the Foveon cameras instead!
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VladimirYo · 642 weeks ago

To have top DSLR and shoot in jpg... OMG
But only the top DSLRs are capable of producing decent JPEGs, just believe it or not.
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homo faber · 642 weeks ago

I you need good JPEGs straight from the camera, buy a Fuji-APS-C camera. Canon, NIkon or Pentax do not have good options for you in APS-C format.
Nope. The in-camera JPEGs of those high-end Canon and Nikon models are good enough.
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homo faber · 642 weeks ago

If does mean, that for example Canon 7D or Nikon D7000 have better JPEGs than K-5, you are completly wrong.
7D and D7000 are not high-end models in the CN lines by all means.
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homo faber · 642 weeks ago

Sorry for my typing errors.
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VoiceOfReason · 642 weeks ago

"DxOMark: Pentax K-5 II is currently the best APS-C camera"
http://photorumors.com/2012/11/21/dxomark-pentax-...

"With an overall score of 82 the Pentax K-5 II (and its predecessor the K-5) are at the same level as the likes of the Canon EOS 5D MKIII, which scored 81. At the time of writing, it is actually eleventh out of ALL current cameras, only trailing behind offerings from Phase One and Nikon, each costing many times as much.

The Pentax K-5 II is a remarkable piece of kit, it scores better in the DxO mark tests than several very highly thought of, full frame DSLRs, beating all the cameras made by Canon! It manages to do this in a body that is very reasonably priced."

Read more on PhotoRumors.com: http://photorumors.com/2012/11/21/dxomark-pentax-...
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Jaz Johal · 642 weeks ago

I had to replace a k5 due to impact damage, the K5ii is indeed better in AF, and more importantly image quality. DXO has commented on their impression and they are quite favourable as are most of the other respectable test players, its not a surprise in the least disagree with their findings.

Too bad pentax marketing has not done a better ( or at least their proper job) communicating the message of the cameras strengths of the likes of the K5's and K30 and Q etc.... what market and what users they are for.
1 reply · active 642 weeks ago
I agree - Pentax marketing seems stuck in the 70's. It is not a matter of money - it is the content marketing message that is so inept.

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