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Monday, March 14, 2011

Lowlight AF Accuracy Shootout: K-5 Firmware 1.03 Vs the Old K20D



http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-5-forum/136324-k-5-1-03-versus-k20d-auto-focus-tests.html

The results are self-explanatory. Testing conditions including lens in used and the lighting level is stated clearly below each pair of the comparison test pictures.

It can be seen that the old K20D K.O. the K-5 with the latest "improved low light AF accuracy" firmware 1.03 hands down! :-o

It seems that Pentax has gone back to the old *ist D days for poor AF accuracy with their latest SAFOX IX/+ used in the K-r and K-5, although in speed the new 9th generation of the Pentax system seems to be faster! >:-(

Nevertheless, a few other K-5 users have carried out some random ad-hoc checks on the AF accuracy of their K-5 units at lower light. It seems that some improvements over the old firmwares are shown but I can still see some OOF samples:-

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37937710

So, the quick conclusion is that the new K-5 firmware could improve something but if it is compared to some old Pentax DSLRs like the K20D, the AF accuracy of the K-5 still, sucks.

My personal experience is that my K-m has the best AF accuracy, which has a mature SAFOX VIII. In fact, I found that the AF accuracy of the K-x had deteriorated but just have never imagined that the K-r could be even worse! Too bad!


Related:-

"Hysteria"!

Improved AF Accuracy of the K20D

AF Speed Difference of K-m Vs K20D

K-x' Time Longevity on AF Accuracy

K-r's AF Accuracy Affected Much by Colour Temparture of the Light Source

Magnified AF Errors of the SAFOX IX than the SAFOX VIII

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mmm, but the K20d tends to backfocus at 2ev. So that one is also not flawless.
3 replies · active 730 weeks ago
The K20D is not perfect, neither, but it does it right most of the time in the above test.
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Michael A. · 730 weeks ago

Why are you arguing/nagging/defending cameras you don't even have? Defective unit is just that..happens to all manuf's. Checked my K-5 with FA*24 at 2.0 & 1.03 and it's still crazy good....
Show us some tests of your own then, preferably side-by-side ones. If your tests are interesting and useful, I am sure that I will post them.
The person who posted this video has a defective K-5.
He admitted it and others have pointed it out.
But that didn't stop you from carefully selecting and posting the information dishonestly did it?
And don't try and tell me you didn't follow the entire post either.
We both know you visit the Pentax Forums several times a day(through multiple accounts) and have been actively following this thread.

Now hurry-up and delete this post before others see how sick you are.
1 reply · active 730 weeks ago
Yes, it must be "defective" or there exists "user errors"! The more people have said that, the more true it will be!
You must have mixed up something:
K-x has the "mature" 11-point SAFOX VIII, K-m has an unnumbered 5-point SAFOX System acording to official data sheets.
3 replies · active 730 weeks ago
http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08092206pentaxk...

"8. High-precision 5-point AF system
The PENTAX K-m incorporates a five-point wide-area AF system (SAFOX VIII with five cross-type sensors)"
... well, dpreview seems to know more about it than PENTAX itself... ;-)

(I couldn't find any official pentax data sheet for the k-m/k-2000, where its AF as named as SAFOX VIII)
That's the press release from Pentax UK when the K-m was launched. Still not "official" enough? :-o

Btw, the only Pentax SLRs that have the original SAFOX AF system are the SF series cameras.
I have both cameras and K20D is not even focusing with this lens in -1ev and is totally unusable in this light situation. This K5 is definitely defective or test is not correctly done. K20 has really troubles at 1-3 EV already and it gets quite slow and accuracy gets down.

In the test we see handshots and non controller environment, this test is from the testing point of view not accurate. To get anything out from testing I suggest metrology a discipline I hated in physics curriculum a lot but it has an important point to get things done. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metrology

Falk Lumo has science educations and he can cope with realistic labs, lets wait his results and then we can talk. Rice you are just making noise here.
"The results are self-explanatory." Indeed. One can easily see that one shouldn't give such sloppy testing any credit. Once Falk Lumo has published his rerun of his original "low light" study, we'll know something.
I'm satisfied that my K-5 is right on on the focusing----IF you set the focusing mode to spot focus.
I have no idea how to judge its 'accuracy' if you set it to a multi point focus. when you have a whole bunch
of points and different distances (beyond the depth of field). I have used the multi-point focus mode and for the record I don't see evidence that it is doing anything really stupid, but it can't fix depth of field that is less than the depth of the depth of the subject matter.

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