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Tuesday, March 01, 2011

Pentax K-5 / SAFOX IX+ Lower Light AF Accuracy Measurbated & Compared

See what Falk Lumo had carried out and found:-

http://falklumo.blogspot.com/2011/02/lumolabs-pentax-k-5-low-light-focus.html

Full test report / technical paper here:-

http://www.falklumo.com/lumolabs/articles/k5focus/index.html (in html format / online reading)

http://www.falklumo.com/lumolabs/articles/k5focus/K5Focus.pdf (in pdf format / offline reading)

I made a comment at Falk's blog previously, see:-

http://falklumo.blogspot.com/2011/02/lumolabs-pentax-k-5-low-light-focus.html?showComment=1298563006076#c5284422552664200059

And his responses:-

http://falklumo.blogspot.com/2011/02/lumolabs-pentax-k-5-low-light-focus.html?showComment=1298568951525#c6672564042501017507

http://falklumo.blogspot.com/2011/02/lumolabs-pentax-k-5-low-light-focus.html?showComment=1298569542930#c5929203098959810618

Whilst it is concluded that the AF reliability and accuracy of the K-5 / SAFOX IX+ could drop drastically for low light EVs, at or below EV8 (i.e., 1/60s at f/2.8 at ISO200, say for example), I found that the major limitation of his test is that the results are actually affected much by the optical defects of a lens. That says the test would yield more accurate and ideal results for a perfectly aligned lens (i.e., no de-centering of any) with perfect optical performance/design and deficiency (no CA and with very high central resolution, etc.).

With the de-centering defect that is commonly found in the Pentax lenses produced nowadays, similar FF or BF effects and thus deviation values could be derived as a result. See the following illustrations in Falk's technical paper:-


[Above: Back (Left) and Front Focused (Right) Images]

..which can be compared to the de-centered shot crops of the very similar chessboard chart taken by the Photozone earlier (which had all been deleted by Klaus anyway).

What I want to say is that Falk's method not only measure the AF errors, but also more so on the optical defects of a lens, which could be more noticeable and take more effects when the lens is wide opened.

Also, I think that mixing the results of various different lenses with which test shots were made under various conditions and present them in a single chart may not be a good enough idea. Yes, I think it is an "overall picture" that has certain reference value. But then presenting the test result lens by lens and one by one will surely reveal even more things and has even better reference value, I believe. Furthermore, to do a truly scientific and systematic test, the variable factor should be even limited to one at a time. I knew this would be extremely time-consuming and huge efforts are required, nonetheless.


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Hi RiceHigh,

thanks for the reference but I don't think you made a good summary of my work. I really recommend *reading* my paper. E.g., when you say:

"presenting the test result lens by lens and one by one will surely reveal even more things and has even better reference value, I believe. Furthermore, to do a truly scientific and systematic test, the variable factor should be even limited to one at a time."

then this is exactly what I did. It is in the paper, not the blog article. The blog article basically says one thing: read the paper ;)

Furthermore, here you make some comments about CA, the qualities of Pentax lenses and decentering defects. Please, do NOT cite my work in this context. It does not contain any data supporting your claims. The magenta/green fringes in out of focus areas are an UNAVOIDABLE physical property for any lens made of glass (which has always has a finite dispersion). This is true even for lenses with ZERO lateral and longitudinal CA. Which is why it is sometimes called Bokeh CA and it is unavoidable with a refractive lens. Please, learn about it before commenting. Whether Bokeh CA is more pronounced with some Pentax lenses is another question. However, an answer requires a prior understanding of the physical phenomen in play. Esp. fast lenses (at wide apertures) are known to have Bokeh CA (any brand), somewhat reduced by ED lens elements and expensive superapochromatic designs.

So please, get your citation right. My method doesn't suffer from problems as you indicate.
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Klaus shown us the de-centered sample photo crops years ago for shooting the same chessboard pattern and the phenomenon is very similar.

He had deleted all those test samples and links, though. If you can still find some of them, we can compare his and yours more carefully.

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