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Monday, July 11, 2011

Disassemble the DA21 Limited (and the Secret of the QSF Mechanism)

A Chinese Pentaxian (who is actually a camera/lens hacker!) has DIY to repair his DA21 with shifted infinity collimation position (over time) so that his could not focus at infinity as the far end of the focusing ring always hit the boundary:-

http://forum.xitek.com/showthread.php?threadid=640585
(Simplified Chinese, Google-translated English Page Here)

He disassembled both the rear and front parts of his lens in order to find out what he could do. Here are two of the posted pictures:-



On the course of disassembling the rear part, he discovered the secret of the Quick Shift Focus (QSF) mechanism. Below is the key components of the driving gears:-



He tells that the gears are designed in such a way that the driving force is only transmitted in one direction. That is, when the lens is driven from the AF motor of the body, the focusing ring will turn. On the other hand, when the focusing ring is turned by hand, the gears will be de-linked automatically, and that's how the QSF works.

Whilst I think he is mostly right. But however, I think the QSF is just more than a pure mechanical thing. As none of my DA lenses works with my older Pentax film SLR bodies like the MZ ones. The movement sometimes is limited in one direction and sometimes is not. As such, I suspect there is also some kind of electromagnetic mechanism to make it fully works.

Later on, the hacker discovered that it was not about the rear part for the problem he wanted to tackle and it should be about the front part. So, after some more inspections and trials, he finally found the key components that he should re-adjust and then re-applied the lubricant, here they are:-



So, he finally succeeded for what he had done in the whole course. Congrats, guy! But sometimes I just wonder, why so many Pentaxians needed to DIY but not sending their gear to the local Pentax service centres for calibration, adjustment and repairing? Is that the Pentax service quality could never meet the users' demands and the charges are too expensive and the places/opening times of the centres are rather inconvenient? ;-D


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Didn't he destroy the contact brush ?
2 replies · active less than 1 minute ago
Yes, he damaged something. But as we should have known, there is always risk for doing any such operation.
"there is always risk for doing any such operation" I did too, even I had a service manual and I was warned. ;)
It's a good illustration of how the number of parts and complexity of manufacture was reduced on the DA-L style lenses. It was admirable that Asahi-Pentax had such wonderful engineering in their kit lenses include with the older bodies. However, they were also way too expensive and/or unprofitable. Hoya gets a lot of crap, but they are much more practical about controlling costs/profitability (relative to marketability) and thus getting the entry-level Pentax kits to a bigger customer base.
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full_frame · 713 weeks ago

But the old company put out some real turkeys in the past. The FA 28-80mm kit lens for example. The F 35-70mm on the other hand is how kit lenses should be.
Unless you work in a clean room, once you open a lens, you will forever have dust particles inside the lens body and adhering to the glass.
3 replies · active 713 weeks ago
But new Pentax lenses are yet somehow dirty when they are just out of the factory brand new!

http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2011/01/dirty-pentax...

http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/08/expensive-le...
Sure ther are exceptions, and that with Nikon, Canon and all other brands. It is still not a good idea to open a lens. Simon, Rocket blower will only introduce more dust. Where do you think the incoming air comes from?
Rocket blower is your friend. It is possible to reassemble a lens reasonable, near lint free under normal conditions.
Does someone here know where to find information on Pentax screw sizes.

I am especially curious to learn what size and pitch the screws are that hold the bayonet of the DA21/3.2 discussed here.

A lot is written about lenses but so far I have not found any resource on screw sizes used in Pentax lenses.

Thank you so much!
2 replies · active 706 weeks ago
Is it the same as the body mount screws?

Try download the body service manual and find out..

http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2011/02/diy-reminder...
Thank you for the reply.

As far as I know the body mount screws are longer with a coarser / wider pitch for better grip.
The lens mount screws have a much finer pitch and are about half as long.
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