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Thursday, January 24, 2013

D5200 Took the Crown of the Benchmark King from the K-5s

See the news: http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Publications/DxOMark-Reviews/Nikon-D5200-New-sensor-and-new-leader

Now, the D5200 is the new King of APS-C in the DxO BenchMark ranking!

And the comparison of the D5200 against the K-5IIs:-

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Compare-Camera-Sensors/Compare-cameras-side-by-side/%28appareil1%29/850|0/%28brand%29/Nikon/%28appareil2%29/830|0/%28brand2%29/Pentax

So, the K-5 is beaten and it surely loses in the resolution too, which is yet not tested as part of the DxOMark tests.

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Almost the same level. The difference is tiny.
Nikon uses Toshiba sensor.

Pay attention that D5200's difference between real and marked ISO are very high.
For example,
D5200's ISO1600=1095
K-5II's ISO1600=1426

D5200's ISO6400=4522
K-5II's ISO6400=5970

and e.t.c
High ISO - 1284 vs 1235 (K-5II)
DR - 13.9 vs 14.1 Evs
Colour depth - 24.2 vs 23.8 bits

Pay attention at the measurements - K-5II's sensor is much better in SNR18% (screen), tonal range (screen). color sensivity (screen).

Print mode = displays the print performance measurement values and graph derived from a RAW image after a normalization step that transforms all images, regardless of original resolution, to an 8Mpix image. The print size we have chosen is a standard 300dpi 8"x12" format, which corresponds to about the physical size of an 8Mpix image printed at 100% magnification.

D5200 is just a bit better in print mode than K-5II. It's easy to understand. 24 MP sensor with very similar data to 16 MP SONY sensor will be better after normalization to 8 MP.
4 replies · active 634 weeks ago
Screen mode shows the measurement values and graph derived directly from a RAW image when displayed on a computer screen at 100% magnification (i.e., one image pixel corresponding to one screen pixel).

It means - K-5II is better to see images at the monitor than D5200. D5200 with 24 MP is better to print. But the difference is almost negligible.
15 replies · active 633 weeks ago
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Ivana Gisagna · 634 weeks ago

Just don't get any water on it.
And let's wait for some real resolution test results in lpmm. K-5IIs may resolve more details despite the lower pixel count. Just like Fuji's filterless version of the sensor did.
1 reply · active 634 weeks ago
I think the more important news here is that Toshiba is making some nice sensors. Competition is good. Assuming Pentax is developing new cameras they now have another sensor sourcing option and one looks outstanding (as opposed to the crap Samsung one in the K-7).

Toshiba and Sony are HUGE rivals and given the bad financial shape of Sony they cant afford to let Toshiba eat away at an area that they have been dominate. The resulting competition should be good for us in either better or cheaper sensors.
1 reply · active 634 weeks ago
So what?
Perhaps Panasonic have better battery. Only one aspect of the camera don´t make it the best camera.
The least interesting aspect of this story is the results of the 5200 versus the K-5 - I mean its great that a 24mp performed better than a 16mp sensor, but not by that much (although more than the point or two that the K5 had over the D7000 and K30/K-01). No, I think the bigger ramification is Toshiba being in the game.

Sony pays for its development of sensors by selling them. It had the luxury to hold back from Pentax for a period of time because they had Nikon paying for sensors. Could Nikon switch suppliers, really killing Sony's sensor business? That's a whole lot of cameras Nikon sells, and a whole lot of sensors Nikon needs. A change may kill advancement of Sony's sensors, or force them to help their other partners, like Pentax. Maybe they cut Pentax a deal on FF sensors to help cover costs.

But Sony's sensors at 24mp seem to be lackluster - just look at the NEX versus the K5 - two clean sensors (no pellicle) and the Pentax camera outdoes the Sony. If Toshiba is the new Sony, won't Sony-based cameras feel like the old old Samsung? Or is it just their APSc 24mp offerings?
I am really happy that finally appeared something better than famous 16mpixel Sony sensor - even if Pentax will not be able to use it (maybe it is built exclusively for Nikon?), then it adds additional pressure on Sony to built something better :-)

In the past Pentax engineers were able to get the best from Sony sensors, so we can expect the same here.
I didn't even know Toshiba had sensor fab ability and facility.
Let along they came out of nowhere and made a sensor that (seem to be) better than Sony who has been at the game for years.

I wonder if Nikon had any design inputs as they have longed to leave dependency of Sony Sensors.

Existing indeed.

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