RiceHigh's Pentax Blog: Canon Has Another Seven

Tuesday, September 01, 2009

Canon Has Another Seven

Will this be a K-7 killer? It will come very soon!

http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2009/08/canon-7d-will-be-an-apsc-dslr-press-release-leaked.html

Original source for the detailed 7D features:-
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=244&t=1211890
(Seems to be a press release article for announcement, text in Traditional Chinese)

Well, on paper, everything looks as if they are better to far/much better than the K-7, except for the weather sealing of the K-7, which the 7D still lacks.

Update: I think I have overlooked that the 7D should also be dust and water proof, so does its battery/vertical grip, as mentioned in the above unpublished press release article (but not very noticeable). So, on paper, the K-7 is beaten down in every way if compared against the 7D, as the 7D is just so advanced! And, byebye 50D, which are to be replaced and there is just no 60D.

In the field, the K-7 already fails much behind the Canon 50D and also the Nikon D300 as far as the camera speeds are concerned, for the AF time, continuous tracking and system time lag (See this previous interesting scientific head-to-head shootout). Besides, IQ wise, the K-7 still loses in most aspects (See another detailed test and the results here).

Update 2: The 7D is formally announced, and "previewed" as well:-

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0909/09090105canoneos7d.asp

http://www.dpreview.com/previews/canoneos7d/

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ChristianD · 810 weeks ago

no need to be a K7 Killer, K7 is already dead!

If you want to see details just check out Imaging Resource 7D review, K7 is a noise machine, with lower tech than 7D/D300s.

K7=K20=Noise fest

why would someone invest in a dead system (pentax). K7 brings only frustration .( i'm on my 2nd body due to horizontal lines and shutdown 'cause it's to hot)

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Tony · 810 weeks ago

Hoya is really facing a real challenge......

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boren · 810 weeks ago

The K-7 still has quite a few advantages over the 7D:

- $400 less expensive
- In-body image stabilization (SR) works with all existing lenses
- 77 weather seals (in Canon, sub-1D series "seals" are a marketing joke)
- Smaller and much lighter (758 gram vs. 945 gram, according to imaging-resource.com)
- DNG support
- Manual or automatic horizon correction using sensor tilt; Composition adjustment via sensor shift
- Pixel remapping
- Digital preview
- Automatic AF correction based on ambient light color temperature
- AF Assist lamp
- HyperProgram
- LCD color calibration
- Cold weather support down to -10 degree C
- Dust alert
- 3-exposure HDR
- Copyright embedding in EXIF
- Multiple exposures up to 9 exposures (without tone mapping or overexposure)
- The green button; ISO, WB and Menu button accessible using the right hand;
- Wider selection of sealed lenses (including two affordable ones); Much wider selection of stabilized lenses (via SR)

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anon · 810 weeks ago

You can't help but feel sorry for Pentax. The only way they can get out of this is to significantly reduce their camera and lens price. Let Pentax again be the brand that offer a cheap but (acceptable) high quality alternative to C&N. Otherwise bye bye pentax.

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boren · 810 weeks ago

Pentax offers a more versatile camera for $400 less. Why should they reduce the price more?

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PYKtures · 810 weeks ago

okay Pentax isn't a system worth spending money for. But I believe the brand needs to keep its users as well, thus pentax comes up with k7 which bring an already good enough revolution to the Pentax system in terms of... everything besides image quality.

Canon is just giving Nikon a "me too" D300s-type body for the sake of good competition in the high-end segment of camera bodies, which is good for canon users who envy Nikon's lead in viewfinder LCD displays, sophisticated 51-point AF, high-Iso performance and body ergonomics...

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Barbarosa · 810 weeks ago

yea, kill pentax, buu pentax, just need to bury pentax and than will be world peace
get serious ppl, canon make marketing department, nikon make engineering department (respect!), pentax make some photograph inside from his point of view, more i use pentax im more shure in that and i cant wait to collect enough money to buy K-7 is so good in hand and so full of nice options and is so irritating to you ppl so make me dmn sure that i will take one soon

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Jose · 810 weeks ago

It is not a good idea to think that if you have the best camera you´ll make the best photo.
K-7 is a good camera, 7d is a good camera.
I have a k200d and previously i have a analogic EOS 1000 from Canon.
I have never thought that the magic is in the camera.

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RiceHigh 110p · 810 weeks ago

But also do not think that you can even take a photo without a camera, or just use those cameraphones to do the job properly!

Tools and technologies have their roles. When different tools are put into the hands of the same photographer, the better tools and technologies will count and there will always be differences in the final results.

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Barbarosa · 810 weeks ago

tools are tools, camera is tool, also is brush, but nether camera make pictures alone or brush make paintings, brush in my hand can make only spots but in hand of Michelangelo become miracle, also camera in my hand make family shots and bad composed pictures but in hand of master that make visual poetry
But we are not all same, someone like to count dots, pixels and similar things, probably have something with compulsive disorder, and my question is, what is resolution of Mona Lisa, or color accuracy of impressionism paintings, indeed accurate camera is must have for documents but for art, design, casual images, portraits, is not must have and is not guarantee of success

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Chosen · 810 weeks ago

Price is everything. They are not even in the same market range. Comparing them is simply wrong, like comparing a Camry to a Lexus. You get what you pay for. You get more with Canon but pay far more, in a much bigger body.

The K-7 is a very good value in a durable, compact package.

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SatriaK · 809 weeks ago

On the other hand, Pentax K-7 is at top of sales performance at end of august in Japan.. according to:
<a href="http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.digitalcamera.jp%2Fhtml%2Franking%2Frank-top.... target="_blank">http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&amp..." target="_blank">www.digitalcamera.jp%2Fhtml%2Franking%2Frank-top.htm&sl=ja&tl=en&history_state0=

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SatriaK · 809 weeks ago

Sorry, bad link, here it is the source http://www.digitalcamera.jp/html/ranking/rank-top...
You may translate with google.

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RiceHigh 110p · 809 weeks ago

The ranking you've referred is about the sales of first marketed *new* camera models. For overall sales ranking in Japan for DSLRs, the BCN sales ranking should be referred to:-

http://bcnranking.jp/category/subcategory_0008.ht...

Now, you can see the No. 1 is still the Canon EOS Kiss X3 (500D), which has stayed for weeks already. As for the latest sales results in the last week of August, the highest ranked Pentax DSLR model is the K-m, which is ranked No. 5. As for the K-7, it is at the 17th.

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PYKtures · 809 weeks ago

I would add that last time I checked IQ on Canon/Nikon goes 2 to 3 ISO stops above Pentax and getting an entry level CMOS camera from either brand is a better price/IQ value... Pentax is just doing brand maintenance and not evolution can't you see?

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Ivanko · 809 weeks ago

Canon 7D has the worst IQ among ALL APS-C cameras.

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