
My NEX is actually smaller than my Girl Friend.. Some people claim that the NEX standard kit lens is much larger. But actually, as you can see from the above, it is just similar in size (and weight as well, actually). And then some Oly guys say that the Oly 14-42mm E-PL kit lens is much smaller. Yes, but it is just retracted when it is needed to be small and the lens must be unretracted before it can be used for shooting!
I think I shall not use my Girl Friend anymore, unless I have no other camera in hands. The noise performance of my GF at ISO 400 is not much better than that of my NEX at ISO 1600, not even to mention that the NEX has slightly higher effective resolution. If I just need the 2X crop, I do believe that better results can always be obtained by cropping. Slightly crop the 1.5X pictures to get the 2X is not difficult. And, if I just adapt the same lens (say, a Pentax one), I get no extra resolution at all for what the lens could give me.
Besides, I don't like the colour response of the GF neither, so does not with my NEX anyway (which I find it to be somehow more acceptable). If I put my Pentax primes on the GF, the colour response of the pics are better, but still the results are not very good. In fact, I like the colour response of my Pentax combos most, and then followed by my 5D with L lenses. The NEX comes next and the last is the Pana.
Furthermore, the noise handling and noise structure of the NEX is the most mature, the K-x is not better but the GF is worst. When the GF pics are pixel peeped and viewed in pixel level, it is not difficult to see those P&S like noise reduction and sharpening, even at the ISO 100! Too bad..
So, after all, that's what I think and here comes my question: What's the meaning/value of the micro-4/3 system now if the current Sony IDLCs (and also the Samsung NX EVILs), both of which are with APS-C sized sensors, are made just as small and the size/weight differences are almost negligible??
With similar or just the same functionality (say, including the video capability), IQ wise the APS-C should do better. The video recording functions of the NEX and the GF are similar, say, for the continuous AF tracking and its speed and smoothness. But the NEX' recorded videos are obviously less noisy than the GF, especially when the videos are taken indoor. The NEX in fact wins all micro-4/3 ILDCs hands down as long as noise performance is concerned, no matter for still pictures and videos, and with a slightly higher resolution and output, too. The NX10 could and should do better, but unfortunately Samsung has been unable to do it better. Why? In fact, the NX10 cannot out-perform much its micro-4/3 competitors and the video function is weak, e.g., there is no usable continuous AF under movie mode. And, the higher ISO noise/details are not better than the Panas and Olys, I would say one stop advantage at most, from my own practical experiences and measurbations on others' samples.

Next, above is the comparison picture I took and posted last time, for my red NEX against my red Casio card-size Exlim S10 P&S (which is my baseline DC which is just better than the cameraphone). You can see the body of the NEX is actually made quite compact. If the "large" APS-C sensor and size is considered, the camera body is indeed very small and it is truly compact!

So, how about to compare the NEX with the traditional APS-C DSLRs. The K-x is one of those smallest DSLRs here. But the difference in size (and weight also) is obvious. In particular, the K-x is much thicker, so does when it is compared against the smaller MZ DSLRs of Pentax back to the old film days.

Well, how about the difference to the Full Frame DSLRs then. From the above photo, I think I need not to say anything more. Well, the lens attached is that smallest and lightest EF lens already, i.e., the cheapo EF 50/1.8II. Canon, why you just can't make smaller lenses of yours?? :-( And, you never made any pancake? :-o
Read Also:-
Sony NEX-5 and NEX-3 Hands-on Impressions / Quick Review
Can Pentax DSLRs be Made Thinner?
Samsung NX10 Second Impressions and ISO Check
NX10 Brief Hands-on Impressions
My K-Mount EVIL is Here!
When Girl Friend Meets Wives! ;-D
Summary Matrix for Equipment Tests and Reviews
Barbarosa · 766 weeks ago
i don' know how good is balance in hand but i doubt that is ok
frank d · 766 weeks ago
ART · 766 weeks ago
Maria · 766 weeks ago
frank d · 766 weeks ago
the way panasonic, olympus and lieica did
Luke · 766 weeks ago
Enche Zein · 766 weeks ago
Luke · 766 weeks ago
What is the meaning of micro 4/3 now? Very little, I am afraid.
joe · 766 weeks ago
Corros · 766 weeks ago
The image quality of the NEX is better than the GF1 etc, but nut much than the E-pl1, G2, Pen2
Richard · 765 weeks ago
However, resolution is well maintained in spite of some extra noise. I use both 4/3 (e420) for a light walkabout and apsc dslrs. The format of 4/3 suits many subjects quite well. I like it. The lenses are great, and there are some very good lower price ones: 25mm 2.8, 35mm 3.5 macro.
The point of 4/3, micro or dslr, is the light weight, and framing format.
David · 765 weeks ago
Clearly, it shouldn't mean Olympus and Panasonic should cash it in just yet. First of all, despite the great sales Sony has had, M/43 is still more established. Starting with 4/3 itself, that platform has already built a relationship with third party lensmakers, and, well, there are two companies - and people may feel more comfortable buying into a system with two companies sharing a lensmount than one proprietary mount.
And of the two, Panasonic has to feel the most secure since it does video. With the HD camcorder announced, Panasonic can sell cheap HD with Leica lenses.
And Sony and Samsung can screw things up. Clearly, Samsung making a clean cut from the K Mount, not providing a full function adapter for lenses sends a message they don't care about supporting legacy lenses (whether that's true or not is in the mind of Samsung). And both need to get third-party lensmakers on board right away.
Some of the discussion here makes me wonder - how small is small enough? Clearly, neither the m4/3 or NEX would fit in a pocket with a lens mounted, and it still is not the easiest carrying around spare lenses in your pockets. So, as far as portability, these systems will never compete with the portability of P/S cameras.
So how small do people want to go for an interchangeable lens system? Clearly, there is a group of people who want a smaller, lighter camera, but does it need to be the smallest? If Pentax got the Kx to a size comparable to their old film cameras, would that be enough? WIll there be a group that would love a smaller camera, but retain the viewfinder and a flash unit?
sam · 765 weeks ago
I think it is a fun camera to shoot with, either hiking or cycling, street. It feels nimble in the hand.
Erik · 765 weeks ago
Lenses of similar optical quality and same FOV should be smaller on MFT, but Sony have managed to make the lenses small by compromising the optics. Some may find that acceptable.
LandscapePhoto · 765 weeks ago
But hey, competition benefits all of us so best of wishes to NEX users out there. I hope Sony and Pentax keep up with the innovations.
Enche Zein · 765 weeks ago
Pentax to develop mirroless camera system
Voldenuit · 765 weeks ago
It has a standard flash bracket with FP-TTL capable native lenses and (on some models) wireless flash control. Not to mention compatibility with wireless triggers. Meanwhile, the NEX has a proprietary flash mount, X-sync only, a measly GN7-ish external flash with no swivel/bounce.
As for noise smearing, these cameras should be shot in RAW, to take advantage of their limited DR and (in the case of MFT) poor high ISO capabilities. Post capture noise processing will always be better than in-body NR anyway, since desktop PCs are an order of magnitude more powerful than the chips in camera bodies.
Don't get me wrong, I'm very impressed with the NEX and have recommended it to many friends and family members. But it can't fill my photographic needs like my GF1 and 20/1.7, ME45, 7-14/4 and FL360 can. At some point, the NEX format is going to grow, and it might become a serious competitor for MFT in the enthusiast sector. But it's not there yet.
sky · 765 weeks ago
jacoKx · 765 weeks ago
....and what? It is smaller when retracted so it can be easily put into your beg.
You cannot do this with the NEX.
george · 764 weeks ago
Ken · 764 weeks ago
I have an ELP1 and 4 lenses plus accessories, the IQ is good enough for me, I dont print above A3. but it is the weight saving that is the most useful to me, DSLR IQ at compact weight.
Design wise I think that the Pany/Oly are better as you have the full range of controls and flexibility that a my old E3 DSLR had.
Buy the camera to fit your requirements, take photos, be happy, who cares what other brands are doing, not me.
Cheers
Biro · 764 weeks ago
tysonrobichaudphotography 15p · 764 weeks ago
I know that many like to pixel peep, but for me, if IQ is the only criteria I will shoot with my full frame cameras and high end lenses. For a compact camera, I want exactly that, compact. While IQ and noise performance are important, I will take a fully functional compact camera over a stop or two of high ISO noise performance (that I can deal with in post if necessary). The NEX cameras are nice, but they are cool point and shoot cameras at best. The micro 4/3 cams offer the shooter full manual control in a very similar fashion to that of a dSLR system camera. That control is far and away more important to me than a bit more resolution, or a one stop advantage, etc. If Sony addresses this with its next camera, then I think it will spell trouble for Panolympus (assuming they also don't address the lack of small pancake lenses for the m4/3 system as well). But currently, if you want a fully functional, easily controlled, pocket sized interchangeable lens camera, the GF1 and PENs are your only real choices right now. (I consider having to go through multiple menus to change ISO, WB, et al to be a hindrance beyond what I would be willing to deal with and expect from a system camera.)
Omox · 764 weeks ago
No offense, I don't want Your camera (I've got my own - not GF1) just think of what You are laughing at... Is what You write of really important, and if You are really able to stand up for Your opinion till the end?
Time will telll long all these new systems will last.
(I have very bad experience with several sony's product lines - they disappear very quickly from the market...)
Omox
Magnus W · 764 weeks ago