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Thursday, February 17, 2011

When the Electronic Level Meter is Not Accurate by Itself..

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1036&thread=37752742

See what some K-5 and K-7 users found and then complain in the thread. When the electronic levels in their cameras are not accurate, what can they do? Like the following? (All quoted from the posts in the above thread..)

1. Rely solely on the viewfinder:

"We observe on the two K-5s that the viewfinder electronic level is not accurate. We both did a controlled test against a known level object with both cameras. They both yield somewhat crooked images when the level through the viewfinder indicates spot on level."

2. Human adapt to the ELM's error:

"When the level indication is ignored, a perfectly level image can be obtained. But the electronic levels on the two cameras show not level by one bar either side of center."

3. The sensor may be tilted, use software to adjust it..

"The confusing part is that either the viewfinder or the CMOS, or both can be tilted. If that's the case, the digital level may not be the source of problem. Software adjusting the digital level will be the fastest solution though."

Would the image quality suffers a bit for this originally unnecessary processing then? :-(

4. Use an external traditional hotshoe-type bubble level:

"Better double check with bubble level"!

Yet once again the Pentax "excellent" QC strikes! Damn it! >:-[

Well, what is the use of an electronic level meter if it is just not accurate enough and could not be relied on?! :-o

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- Yet once again the Pentax "excellent" QC strikes! Damn it! >:-[

Pentax QC? What 's that?
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Michael A. · 736 weeks ago

Check Wikipedia...
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rikkoamachi · 736 weeks ago

i got a little bit confusion around.. i have shot around 17 weddings with my k-r but then i realize that when i took photogroup my setting goes like iso 400- shutter 1/80- f 5.6 while my friend's 7d goes iso 400 -1/80 - f 9 ... is this the same problem?
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No, it's not. The K-r does not even have an electronic level meter.

But if you are referring to the difference between the f stops as QC related, yes. Canon has a problem :D. Seriously I don't understand what your problem is.
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rikkoamachi · 736 weeks ago

umm.. sorry for my abysmal english ability heheh.. i mean my k-r seems to underexpose everything .. groawr..
The exposure accuracy of my K-r is so far so good - something close to dead accurate even by my own very stringent standards. But if yours underexposes, this would not be something really surprised anyway as the QC of Pentax is virtually non-existent IMVHO.
I still don't get it. You get the same ISO, same shutter speed, but the K-r sets a larger aperture of f5.6 against the Canons smaller f9.

So actually it's the Canon that's underexposing by setting a smaller aperture.

Pentax cams are generally know to to be conservative when setting exposure, but I agree with RH that the K-r is very good, even the AWB performance.
Indeed, the AWB of the K-r is even more reliable than my NEX and of course much better than my old Canon 5D.

Besides, the IQ seems somehow better than the K-x in the field. So, it is really rather sad to have such an obvious tungsten FF problem, for such an originally should be very fine and practical camera! :-(
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rikkoamachi · 736 weeks ago

Rice youure right.. confirmed, the exposure problem is in my k-r .. i compared it with my 5d and shelf guardian gx10.. i think i'm gonna use my warranty card :'( ...

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