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Thursday, November 10, 2011

LiFePO4 AA Batteries - Part 2: Unboxing (and Also Some New NEX E30/3.5 Macro Samples)

Continued from the last story, my LiFePO4 pack has just arrived today! :-D



The package I purchased including a dual-slot charger, which can accommodate either two AA or AAA sized batteries, four LiFePO4 AA batteries plus four dummy AA sized conductors, two 4xAA battery holder/case and a pack of 50 sheets of lens paper as the gift. These altogether cost me for RMB68 (roughly equals to US$11), delivery charge (RMB50) excluded.

Just side track a bit to mention that the free lens paper is not as clean and tidy as the Kodak one that I have been using for decades, but it seems to be softer and not as abrasive! :-o

I plugged in the charger and unpacked the rechargeables. The build quality of the charger seems to be quite good but the unloading action is not that smooth. It can be seen that when there is no battery in the charger, the LED light shows blinking Green and Red at interlace, although after the following photo shows that it looks like in green:-



The voltage values of two not yet charged batteries newly picked out from the pack are shown below, at about 3.3V and near 3.5V respectively (full scale defection was set at 12V):-





I inserted the batteries into the charger, the LED lights turned Red:-



Besides, the unboxing photos taken in this Blog post are all made with my newly purchased Sony E-mount 30/3.5 Macro lens on my NEX-3. I have tested the lens initially for some both indoor and outdoor shots and found that the lens is actually quite sharp, even at wide opened. The centre sharpness is unbeatable. See two selected original (i.e., not retouched) 100% viewing crops below:-


(100% Crop: E30/3.5 at f/5 and 1/50s, ISO 800 on NEX-3)


(100% Crop: E30/3.5 at f/5 and 1/50s, ISO 1600 on NEX-3)

Next, the batteries were fully charged within an hour, maybe the batteries had been charged somehow in the factory. After the charge was completed, the LED light shown Green. Before that, it toggled between Green and Red for some time, meaning that the charging was not continuous at that intermediate stage.

And I did also note that the charging channels of the charger are working independently, see this:-



After the charge was completed, the LED lights turned Green, I picked out the batteries to measure the voltage and found that both are now near 3.6V (open circuit, no load):-







Okay, now these batteries are ready to be tested inside my beloved K-x except for the annoying rechargeable battery issue, will test more thoroughly and report back later in the next part! To be continued..

Last but not least, more NEX E30/3.5 Large size sample photos will also come! :-D (I hope to post some real-world shots if it allows! ;->)

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Can't wait for the part 3 with conclusion of k-x case.
1 reply · active 699 weeks ago
But I do need some time. :-)
An ebay seller for Coolook would be nice.
4 replies · active 699 weeks ago
It may not comply with the relevant local product safety regulations in many countries for its extraordinary high voltage in AA.
There are some LiFePO4 AA batteries on ebay, but I would prefer Coolook.
Any link(s)?
Hi,

search for these two terms LiFePO4 AA on ebay, but like I said, unfortunately no Coolook.
Isn't this kinda pointless when ENELOOPS work so well with the KX...
1 reply · active 699 weeks ago
Eneloops work with K-x (and most Pentax AA DSLRs), but I would never consider it to be "well"!
Would such a configuration work in k200d? (I've been reading that some had trouble with NiZn's increased voltage of 1.6..1.7V)
Looking at the battery compartment it seems that AA's are in basic series of two so dummy should work.

How is the weight reduced with having two dummies and supposedly lighter Lithiums, compared to 4 NiMH's? Actually that's my main problem with NiMH's.

What is the energy capacity of such system (Voltage*Ah). I could find 600mAh rating for other brand - 600mAh*3.2V*2=3840mWh (4320mWh@3.6V),2100mAh*1.2V*4=210080mWh. I wonder how this equates to shot count with faster voltage cut-off for NiMH's.
2 replies · active 699 weeks ago
Your calculation is incorrect. The discharge curves and cut-off voltages of both types of batteries should be taken into account.

Just say the 2000+mAh ratings of most NiMH are measured based on a cut-off voltage down to 0.9V or even lower. Apparently, at such low voltage, our Pentax DSLRs can't be driven.
The problem of NiZn in damaging devices as reported is not solely owing to its higher voltage, but mostly because of its very low internal resistance, at about 4.5 mOhm as specified.

The LIFePO4's internal resistance is close to the Energizer L91 of which the fresh voltage can reach as high as 1.75V per cell. So, they are similar for both the voltage and internal resistance except that actually when using LiFePO4, the *total* internal resistance of four batteries are actually halved.

As for the weight, it is of course noticeably lighter, as the difference is already quite obvious when using L91 against NiMH.
length for a SEL 30/3.5 is 55.5mm while for a SAL 30/2.8 is 45mm with a RECESSED front element. I can't think of why sony don't use the lens design to produce a SEL 30/2.8 instead
1 reply · active 699 weeks ago
The back focus register distance of the Sony E-mount is 18mm whilst that of the Minolta A-mount is 44.5mm. Thus, the overall length, from the lens front to the focus plane (i.e., the sensor) of the SEL 30 on NEX is still considerably shorter than the SAL's.
At at price of USD11 for the package is a real bargain, considering a high quality Nimh charger alone cost much more than these. Seems like a low cost and good source of power comparing to Nimh or third party k-r batts options.

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