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Friday, August 26, 2011

A77 Vs K-5 Head-to-Head High ISO Measurbation (1600 and Up)



Look at: http://bbs.chengme.com.cn/viewthread.php?tid=16504261

(Simplified Chinese, Google Translation to English Here)

The lenses used on the A77 are the new Sony DT16-50/2.8 and the old cheap Sony DT35/1.8. The lens used on the K-5 is the DA35/2.4; Other settings: Auto WB, direct-out-of-camera JPEGs; focal fixed at 35mm, f/4 for shots at ISO 6400 and below; No re-touching of any except cropping or downsizing:-

1. Crops
ISO
A77
K-5
1600
7716501600.jpg, 7735181600.jpg

k535241600.jpg
3200
7716503200.jpg, 7735183200.jpg

k535243200.jpg
6400
7716506400.jpg, 7735186400.jpg

k535246400.jpg
12800
77165012800.jpg

k5352412800.jpg
16000
77165016000.jpg

Not Available
25600
Not Available
k5352425600.jpg

51200
Not Availablek5352451200.jpg


2. Downsized Large "Original Full" Pictures (in 6MPs)

ISO
A77
K-5
1600
DSC00628.JPG, DSC00640.JPG

IMGP3042.JPG
3200
DSC00631.JPG, DSC00642.JPG

IMGP3043.JPG
6400
DSC00632.JPG, DSC00644.JPG

IMGP3045.JPG
12800
DSC00637.JPG

IMGP3047.JPG
16000
DSC00638.JPG

N/A
25600
N/A

IMGP3052.JPG
51200

N/A
IMGP3053.JPG

Happy Measurebation! Please come back and let us know what you've discovered! I haven't done my own complete measurebation yet as I am too hurry to report this test! ;-D

Official Pentax Q Samples are Out!




http://www.pentax.jp/japan/products/q/ex.html

(in Japanese, English Here (machine-translated))

All the posted sample images are RAW converted in-camera, as indicated and all the four samples were taken at f/2.8 near wide-opened (possibly by one f-stop closed down of the lens for somehow better optical output of the lens but yet NOT to stop down further so as to avoid diffraction, which affects the final resolution).

Do note the underexposure tendency of this production Q nonetheless, I just can't think out why the second girl face photo should require a +EV of 1.3 stops as the exposure compensation factor! >:-o

As for the bokeh we see, I am not sure if it is created with the Fake Bokeh Filter, a built-in software function of the Pentax Q.

Pentax Will Have More Choices for Their Upcoming Q Sensors!

Sony has designed new 1.12 um pixel pitch CCD sensors in even smaller size of 1/2.8", 1/3.06" and 1/4", via latest report at the Image Sensor World.

So, the "good" news is that Pentax can have more new choices in making their upcoming Q bodies and they could be made even smaller! If any and if not the Q system will be a marketing tragedy otherwise! And more importantly, they don't have to wait for another five years before they finally could find a sensor that is small and "good" enough! :-o

As in the above Sony spec sheets, the new 1.12um IMX sensors are designed and intended for use in smartphones with "high" performance and "superior" IQ. But Pentax can use it anyway, as they are just the one who always did things with extraordinary braveness and with great surprises to us and shocked the world! ;-D (But honestly and frankly many of those are just plain stupid, completely meaningless, utmost rubbish and utter non-sense, just see the recent K-to-Q adaptor which they've created! >:-[)


Previous Related:-

Pentax Q Has Been Designed for Five Years!

Heart of the Pentax Q - Sony IMX078CQK Imager

How Large a Sensor that Pentax Could Put Into the Q?

Sony A77 and Pentax K20D are Looking so Alike!

Well, sometimes a picture worths a million words.. And two pictures worth more than two million words and so on! Action! ;-D











N.B. Picture Sources: Imaging Resource:-
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/AA77/AA77A.HTM
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/K20D/K20DA.HTM


Oh well, the ex-Pentax engineers should have been with Sony now, my bet! :-o


Related:-

The Very Different Fates of Two ex-AOC Top Optical Engineers

"Photo Odyssey 2011"

A Blog reader of mine, Mr. Moritz Schwertner, a German (relatively new) Pentaxian, has dropped me an email for an alert about a new photo website he and other five photographers (Pentaxians and Canonians mostly) have set up:-

http://www.photoodyssey2011.com/

Here are some excerpts for an introduction of their website:-

"I am writing to you because of my Photo Project.

We're currently six photographers, all set in different countries. On January 1st 2011 we started a photographic Adventure called "Photo Odyssey 2011" in which we post at least one new daily picture each day, circuiting around the order.

We've got plenty of amazing stuff, and three of us are even Pentaxians just like you!

There's a lot to discover, like the Shooting for our local Audi Centre for whom I've shot a quick Session for the newly announced A1 (only with a Pentax K20D mind you ;-) ).

Well, if you're interested, let me know! I would really feel honored if you could do that for us!

Here's the homepage: http://www.photoodyssey2011.com

And some Infos:

- 6 Photographers based in 6 different Nations
- Tomasz Michalski, Poland (Pentax)
- Manu Schwingl, Egypt (Canon)
- Pascal Stingl, Switzerland (Canon)
- Moritz Schwertner, Germany (Pentax)
- Jorge Toro, Mexico (Pentax / Sony / Nikon)
- John Behrends, USA (Pentax / Pentax 6x7)

Monthly changing Guest Photographers from different countries aswell!

We're currently preparing our first ever public photographic Challenge.
Starting August 31st we will accept Pictures regarding a still to be defined theme from any photographer who'd like to showcase their work. Rules to enter our Challenge can be found when it gets public on our page on August 31st at 20:00h (CET)."



With my view that they are not anything commercial (at least at this moment) for what they have set up and I do like many of their photos which look really nice, I do not mind to make a free promotion for them here (for once)! ;-)

Go have a look, or even participate, and enjoy! :-D

Thursday, August 25, 2011

Official Pentax K to Q Convertor/Adaptor is Coming! :-o

http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20110825_472562.html
(Babelfish English translation here)

The demonstration/product show will be carried out on 3rd and 4th of September, the tentative official name is the "KQ Adaptor". The title of the show is "surprise". Yes, I am really surprised! Or, I should say I am shocked or even frightened!!

With a 5.6X multiplying factor and an image circle of 1/nth of the original 135 Full Frame K-mount format no matter in diameter and in area, I just can't imagine what resolution can the K-mount lens give and what result is delivered after the adoption! :-o

I hope NOT such *nonsense* of Pentax should continue, even after the takeover by Ricoh! Really too bad.. >:-(

New NEX-5N Full-Size Sample Photos (w/ Zeiss 24 and SEL 18-55)

NEX-5N + Zeiss 24:-

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/carl-zeiss-sonnar-e-f-1-8-24-za-t--sample-photos-17255

Click on the "High-Res" links to download the full-size original photos with EXIF.

NEX-5N + SEL 18-55:-

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/sony-alpha-nex-5n-sample-photos-17261

The firmware in camera is said to be pre-production version, but its number is 1.00, as I've just checked.

Seems to be quite sharp for the Zeiss lens (but the kit lens is not that bad neither, btw). The colour rendition of the Zeiss lens does look somehow better, too. But IMHO, it is not going to beat down my NEX-3 with Pentax FA primes on it. A previous illustration photo of my gear:-



(Original Post: My New APS-C K-mount ILDC!)

When the Sensor Outresolves the Lens.. (How Meaningful is a 24MP APS-C Sensor?)

As we all have known, Sony is making a new 24MP APS-C sensor and now markets their new NEX-7 and A77 with this new sensor.

I have been wondering since the first rumour was leaked, do the lenses and optics keep up with the (much) increased high resolution of the sensor? I have got no answer about this not until the MTF charts and figures of the new E-mount Zeiss lens are out. Look at these:-


(Source: http://sonyalphanex.blogspot.com/2011/08/sony-nex-carl-zeiss-24mm-sonnar-e-mount.html)

So, at a moderate MTF figure of 50%, this US$1,000 luxury lens in APS-C resolves (only) 40 lp/mm (line pairs per millimetre), for most of the image borders (7mm and outwards). Translating into the 24mm length for the horizontal resolution of the APS-C sensor, it means that the horizontal resolution of the lens is 960 line pairs in total, at about an averaged MTF of 50%.

We all know that a 24MP 3:2 sensor is roughly about 6,000 x 4,000 in pixels. But don't forget that it is a Bayer sensor, of which the physical layout and colour filtering looks like this:-

G R G R
B G B G
G R G R


The above is for 12 *physical* pixels. To have two perfectly resolved vertical line pair (i.e., a black line adjacent to a white line) with perfect alignment (such that there is no ambiguity in the received colour information), four pixels in a line which run horizontally are required.

Hence, now divide 6,000 pixels by 4 which yields 1,500 line pairs as resolved by the sensor with a perfect MTF, i.e., 100% (theoretically, putting aside the Dynamic Range and S/N limits of the sensor and image processing). Now, it's time to recall the MTF50 line pair resolution figure of the Zeiss lens. It resolves only at about 960 line pairs in 24mm for an APS-C sensor!

The Conclusion? The sensor out-resolves the lens, and by much! Do note also that the above best optical resolution figure is obtained at f/8 stopped down, the situation could be made even worse with the smaller pixel pitch size of the 24MP APS-C sensor of which the diffraction limit occurs at only about f/5.6.

After all, I just wonder why Sony/Zeiss did not make a lens with higher resolution since the image circle has been shrunk. It is noted that the resolution and MTF figures of this expensive "much desired" Zeiss 24mm APS-C lens is not much better than a typical Pentax prime, e.g., the FA28/2.8, check these Photodo figures to compare (unfortunately, the original MTF charts were deleted).

Ironically, the matching sensor resolution in APS-C for the current optics is simply a 12MP sensor in 4,000 x 3,000. It is because 4,000 / 4 is 1,000 which is exactly what a possibly best prime could deliver in term of the maximum resolution in APS-C! Not even to say the noise performance of such a lower pixel count sensor undoubtedly would be better - exactly the same case for the 12MP K-r Vs 16MP K-5 as long as noise is concerned (and that the *actual* image resolution of the K-5 is not exceeding the K-r by that much).

At the end of the day, sometimes I just wonder: marketing always overrules engineering, that is a sad thing after all.

Last but not least, if you're still not satisfied with my theoretical calculations of the above, anyone can verify if what I've said is true or not by looking at more of those *real-world* tests and samples, here is a first very useful comparison and shootout made by the IR, see:-

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/AA77/AA77A.HTM

Just scroll down to the IQ section and judge on the sample crops by yourself. I am sure that you can decide!


Read Also:-

When the Diffraction Limit is Reached..

K-m Olive Vs 5D Pixel Peeping

NEX-7 Quickly Jumped to the Top 3 Best Selling Camera at Amazon, Pentax Continues to Decline..



Look at what Photo Rumors reported for yesterday's top selling camera at Amazon. Today, the NEX-7 is at the third place.

Yet a quick check to the Amazon chart reveals that the best Pentax stuff on list is the K-5 body (only), at #50, whilst the K-r different kits are declining to the end of 50s, near 60.

People may then argue that it's only the Amazon. No problem, we could have another chart to verify the situation:-

This is the latest Japanese BCN ranking for the whole country of the last week, indeed the situation is very similar. The best selling Pentax offers are the K-r kits, which are ranked equally at #42.

So, Pentax sales are actually declining over time and that the down trend is clear at present. :-( In order to get back some market share, it's time for some new models and stuff! Right? :-D

Wednesday, August 24, 2011

When Size Really Matters, What's the Point of the NEX-7 Now?

The NEX-7 is announced, the new excitement seems to have been over already, as the previous leaks about the new Sony stuff have already contained most of the key information.

It is a bit disappointed to learn from the official information that the NEX-7 whilst is not too heavy (but just a bit, in 350g with battery and memory card), I'm afraid that its size is just a bit too large.

In 12cm wide, 7cm tall and about 4.3cm thick, I think whilst it is yet relatively small when compared with DSLRs, I am almost sure that no one would call it small for an ILDC! :-(

Another look at the product images and comparison at the Alpha Mount World that the NEX-7 is really much larger than the NEX-5. Whilst the NEX-7 does contain also the additional EVF and built-in flash plus the hotshoe also in an "all in one" package, I am afraid its size is just too bulky after all:-




So, similar to what I asked the last time about the micro-4/3, IF size really matters, what is the point of the NEX-7 now? Just some food for thought anyway. Also considering that the new Zeiss 24mm/1.8 E-mount lens is considerably large in size as well..

Update (8-25): Look at this (official Sony?) demo video and we can have a better idea about the sizes of the NEX-7 and new lenses when they are put in hands:-


(URL: http://youtu.be/a-sFeGaVqQ0)


Related:-

If Size Really Matters, What's the Meaning of Micro-4/3 Now?