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Wednesday, January 11, 2012

CES Pentax News and One Rumour

First, we should look at this. It is a meeting room hired by Pentax at the CES2012:-



It is a small room with closed door and next to the toilets, via DPR post here. When I first looked at the picture, I was nearly mistaken that Pentax had hired oneof the toilets! :-o

As for the Pentax booth, there is no picture posted, but it is described as follows:-

" I found out the pic above IS a Pentax meeting room (Very bad location btw!) But they do have a real booth in hall D. Still the Booth is tiny, barely bigger than 3rd party small time makers such as BlackRapid, Bowen and "Noritsu" "

Update: Thanks to Blog reader ERR, we have a picture of the sad little Pentax Ricoh booth:-



Btw, for what I've learnt so far, there is no particular new product of any on show at the Pentax booth, but there is a rumour though. See this:-

http://www.p3newsreviews.net/2012/01/mystery-camera-spotted-at-ces.html

via DPR forum post here.

This is actually a pure text rumour that I would classify, i.e., everyone could create and say something like this! >:-(

The doubt is: IF it is true, why not take a photo of it, as it is just a public show and exhibition after all! :-o

Well, even what is talked is true, I am really want a viewfinder for the K-mount mirrorless (if any!)! No matter it is electronic or optical..

But with all the recent "extraordinary" marketing and really poor PR of the Pentax Ricoh (examples are about the discontinuation of the K-r (and possibly also the K-5) without any replacement announced!), I am really starting to much worry and doubt about the future of the Pentax brand and particularly about the survival of the Pentax SLR system in K-mount! >:-(

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Probably, after the K-5 we'll get as a next step a Pentax Q mkII with a K-Mount for a sack full of $, it would suck, but it will be EVF, Hooray ! ;)
1 reply · active 690 weeks ago
I now hope that the Pentax camera business was not sold to Ricoh but Hoya just kept it. It seems that Hoya did the business more sensibly and in a more normal way! >:-o
What a terrible place for a meeting room! Probably, the Pentax representatives aren't very happy about it.
I had originally planned to go to CES (went to PMA for years) but did not go for several reasons. After seeing this photo, I can add one more reason to the list!
I wouldn't be so worry - It's perfectly normal that Ricoh needs some time to define a new product strategy - Ricoh didn't buy the most successul camera company so they probably want to make some changes. As usual, it takes time for the executive team to learn about the organization they bought, before to shape new plans, new organization, select the people who will lead the new organization, and only then define a new product strategy. Be patient !!!!!!
It is a Ricoh and Pentax booth, divide it in two parts, this makes it even more laughable.
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RetLaEnvEmployee · 689 weeks ago

Looked at the convention floor map and layout for all exhibitors. Pentax's conference/meeting room is next to the "crappers" and the bathroom signs are real. Looks like people working for Ricoh/Pentax could not even come close to hitting a base hit in marketing games - kinda hard to do anything when your playing water boy under the stands in a hidden locked closet next to the crappers on the upperdeck of the infield.
1 reply · active 689 weeks ago
I think we should send in an email to Ned and ask him that why Pentax is so poor this year? :-o
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VladimirYo · 689 weeks ago

Well...
Anyway place near the toilet are most visited on Exhibition. And people more happy and no hurry after...
3 replies · active 689 weeks ago
So, they were brilliant for their selection! And, people gotta to be alert too, possibly with the smell from the toilets! ;-D
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VladimirYo · 689 weeks ago

Did you feel smell at that place at CES? ))))

Anyway nobody can tell that PR department work good.
I have not been there, but I could feel the smell online! Lol..

Btw, now Pentax the whole company is called PR, no matter what it stands for! ;-)
Youve got it all wrong!

1, Pentax were appearing at this exhibition for the first time. Newcomers to a major exhibition have to take the space offered. It is almost impossible for a newcomer to obtain a large space.

2. The picture is of the door leading to the meeting room, not the meeting room itself. It is of the corridor in which the room is situated. The "Restroom" sign directs people in the corridor to the toilets further along the corridor.

You claim to be a Pentax fan, but all I see on your site is praise for Sony and Fuji and condemnation of Pentax. You should reappraise your attitude.
2 replies · active 689 weeks ago
Pentax has participated in the CES for many years, and their booth used to be big! Evidence:-

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=...

http://www.ces-show.com/0468/pentax/digitalcamera...

Not even talk back to 2005, but for just two years ago, there were still many new Pentax products displayed at the CES. Since it seems that you've just been there, please tell us that what has been put on show this year, then this will surely compensate the bad mood of what are being discussed around the Net about Pentax and the CES!
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full_frame only · 689 weeks ago

Very interesting. In 2005, they were still asking for firmware updates. And that post from 2005 talks about "addressing the marketing issue".

If the D800 is small form factor, I'll be switching systems right away.

"Just say no to APS-C." AND "Just say no to monster Full frame bricks".
Well, I was the one who posted the original thread @ DPR. Here is the actual Hall D booth size, look how small it is, it's relegated to be grouped with companies like BlackRapid and other small time operators.
http://ces12.mapyourshow.com/5_0/exhibitor_detail...
Fact is, the bag maker Tamrac had a booth 3x the size. you go figure.
Here is the Canon stand for you guys to measurebate against :)
Decreasing build-quality, sloppy QC. A K5 with stains on the sensor, month of waiting for an FW-Update to get the SAFOX 9+ working in low light conditions. Discontinued bodies with noe replacement, no announcements of new products at CES, only some shady rumours around the internet. It's getting more and more boring in Pentaxland. All i want is a well build "classical" FF-DSLR equipped with the good old mirror and a pentaprism, and none of the new mirrorless toys with a television set in the viewfinder. New EOS 5D MK-III is lurking behind the corner and getting more and more interisting to me. An offical announcment about a FF from Pentax could stop my thoughts of switching, even if the body will be available at the end of 2012. But if there will be no good news until the release of the new 5D, my Pentax-years might come to an end. This is your last chance Pentax !! H U R R Y U P !!!!!!!!!!
2 replies · active 689 weeks ago
Good news and bad news. The bad news has been all over this page. Pentax has nothing new to release, to announce, not even a roadmap, no strategy still and its intention for continuiing on in the DSLR business is anybody's guess.

The good news is that it will be great for Pentax owners, that is, for all those who still stay. There will be lots of Kmount lenses on the used market, as people like you switch to other brands, driving prices down. Stock up on an extra K-5 body now. Just in case.
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full_frame · 689 weeks ago

It's self fulfilling. Staying quiet is as big a blunder as those debit card fees the banks tried to add. There's long time posters on the other forums who are getting antsy. Just in case may be a good idea?
"barely bigger than 3rd party small time makers such as BlackRapid, Bowen and "Noritsu"

Umm, Noritsu is hardly small time. They are pretty big, actually.
2 replies · active 689 weeks ago
Haha you are right, afterall, they have a stand almost up there with Pentax, which, according to their self intro: "Pentax Ricoh Imaging Americas Corp. is a leader in the production of weather resistant digital SLRs, medium format cameras, .... etc etc."

So Noritsu must be an industry leader too....

Sorry about my sarcasm, it is not directed at you - I'm just saying, TAMRAC the bag maker had a stand 3x the size of Pentax....
Camera bags have a HUGE PROFIT MARGIN compared to cameras, and Tamrac is about the best in the business.
Tamrac has HUNDREDS of different models to show off. Hmmm, if I had more cash and more products to show off I would likely have a larger booth too.

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