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Monday, October 11, 2010

New Plans / Roadmaps of Others.. And Pentax?

Samsung have just also released the NX lens roadmap of theirs, see what PhotoRumors.com reports:-



Well, I think this is just a response to Sony for announcing their NEX lens roadmap earlier at the Photokina..



On the other hand, both Canon and Nikon do not have any roadmap, but they do have announcements of bundles of new lenses and pre-announcements on new development!

Okay, let's count how many new Canon lenses Canonians have had for this Photokina: They have Six (6)! And, it was told that two new updated versions of L lenses will come later! As for Nikon, their also had 6 new Nikkors announced, plus a new SB dedicated flash!

In BIG Contrast, Pentax/Hoya have no roadmap published nor there is any response to others, neither to their users! Last time they "updated" the old Pentax Corp. lens roadmap is to delete/cancel plans of those not-yet-released new lens models that had included in the old roadmaps of Pentax! :-o Damn it! >:-[

I do think that the *Pentax* planned/designed DA*30 and the SDM compatible 1.4X Tele-Convertor are just very valuable add-ins to the current DA lens lineup for both of it as they really fit in some important omissions currently.


( Figure Above: Pentax DA 1.4X SDM - The Vapourised Ware! :-[ )

Still, last time, here was a rumour I reported long time ago, already, as time passes by. Well, now time has almost told that I was probably wrong for believing that, and very possibly my hope but maybe actually just imagination would probably never come true! :-(( I must confess for the stupidity of mine for believing that rumour, which seems to be untrue!

So, the hard facts are Hoya cancelled plans on new DA lenses whilst there is no plan nor roadmap for a new lens system, i.e., a revived Full Frame one, as it should be the right thing to do! >:-( Canon, Nikon, Sony and Leica all have that, why Pentax alone need not to do so??!

Each time I see news and the bright future of the others, I feel upset and totally frustrated for how Hoya are now doing this Pentax business. It seems that they are now selling DSLRs and a few body kits and in numerous body colours, which they are just selling their DSLRs in a way like selling P&S DCs and "Prosumers"! I have never seen that they are selling new Pentax stuff as a strong and complete Pentax system as a whole, which should be a growing comprehensive one that will suit different needs of different users and to be updated and competitive up-to-date.. Hoya, you go nowhere! Where are YOU??

To end this Blog entry, the following statement from the Hoya CEO in an interview with the Press back to October 2009 is quoted, "The Pentax imaging/camera division will be resold, though its deficit could turn intto profit" - Mr. Suzuki Hiroshi (鈴木 洋), CEO of Hoya Corp., 6 Oct 2009. Which would just be a good enough explanation of why all those unfortunate and unfavourable things in the Pentaxland are happening.


Related:-

The Very Different Fates of Two ex-AOC Top Optical Engineers

Hoya CEO Still Thinking to Sell Off Pentax

Sony Has Had Just Too Many New Cameras To Be Announced! :-o

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bandymelis · 752 weeks ago

Small correction: "why Pentax alone need not to do so" is not entirely correct. Olympus also seems to have no plans for a FF lineup.
1 reply · active less than 1 minute ago
Your "argument" is plain silly, frankly. Oly have no chance to do it with their 4/3 mount. But Pentax do, with the K-mount, you indeed honestly knew it. Come on, man!
"Samsung have just also released the NX lens roadmap of theirs, see what PhotoRumors.com reports:-

Well, I think this is just a response to Sony for announcing their NEX lens roadmap earlier at the Photokina.."

Not exactly. Photo Rumors was slow in reporting the news. The mock-ups of new Sony E lenses were indeed displayed at Photokina on 21 September and the corresponding roadmap (note it's in German) was drafted and published by Photosala on 25 September:
http://www.photoscala.de/Artikel/photokina-2010-N...

whereas the Samsung roadmap was reported by Foto Actualidad on 16 September:
http://www.fotoactualidad.com/2010/09/samsung-rev...

So the Samsung roadmap can(t be an answer to Sony's since it was published earlier :-)
well we know that there will be 645 wide angle;)
"The Pentax imaging/camera division will be resold, though its deficit could turn intto profit" - please, link to an official, unaltered press release.
I have this feeling, that Mr. Suzuki Hiroshi never said that... ;)
5 replies · active 752 weeks ago
So, I have also provided the link to a link to the original interview article, which you can read in full and interpret in any ways by yourself! :-)
You provided what, the proof that your blog is full of lies?
There's no "Pentax will be resold". There's a "Pentax could be resold, if it won't become profitable" - a huge difference.
And if it's not obvious, it's the difference between "we want to sell Pentax anyway, so we'll make them look good and find a buyer" and "we're really interested in making Pentax work; but we won't accept heavy losses to sustain a bad business".
Btw, the message was addressed to the shareholders, who cares only about their shares (doh!)
You forgot the case of first making it to be profitable for a while and then sell it!
I forgot nothing - this wasn't an option, to begin with. It's just FUD spread by Pentax haters like yourself.
In commercial world, this is what has been happening daily for the purchase and selling of different businesses. How many brands/products/companies that Google and Microsoft etc. have acquired so far? They won't acquire business that is suffering loss and has no prospect.

For what those have been sold, the original founders gained big money as such and the profit is secured. In fact, many of them do not need to work so hard anymore than they did before and they can employ someone else to do the jobs for them - Just see how DPR was sold to Amazon and Phil Askey rarely does those equipment measurabtions and writes the review reports by himself. He is now enjoying the fruit of his previous success! See?
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bandymelis · 752 weeks ago

I do not think I gave any "argument" here. Just said Oly is not introducing a FF. What are you talking about? Still, Rice, Oly has no plans for FF. It is not a difficult thing to introduce a FF camera, as Oly has produced (or can even reproduce again) plenty of FF lenses. Its just a matter of going back. Same with Pentax. So, I gave no argument. It is just a MISTAKE to assert Pentax is alone in not introducing FF.
3 replies · active 752 weeks ago
I agree and would like to add: I think Pentax is doing EXACTLY the right thing. Avoid FF because it is a niche and backwards-oriented. Instead make the perfect APS-C DSLR, something we all crave. Plus, add a MF camera that you can charge really hefty sums for. Ergo: both are profitable, one for volume, the other for price, with visible R&D synergies between the two.
C

PS. Sony's SLT is a joke. No dust-removal for the fixed mirror, and an electronic viewfinder with 1/10th the resolution of the final picture. In my opinion, a camera targeted at the electronic geek without photographic experience.
Surely the 10 fps and continuous phase matching autofocus during video and LiveView etc. are "jokes"!
I own a DSLR because I want an optical viewfinder and single-lens optics. It is my firm belief that the principle is superior to any other on the market. I use video on rare occasions and LiveView only when shooting overhead (also rare).

The SLT by PRINCIPLE can offer SOME advantages - these advantages reflect a design decision of Sony, not an invention and no ingenuity, just a decision. Owners of an SLT might need fast AF during video and high fps. Ok, so be it.

But as a still camera, an SLT has disadvantages - again, by principle, not because Sony is bad or something. The problem of dust in the optical axis (on the mirror) is one, but for me the showstopper is the electronic viewfinder with 1/10th the resolution of the sensor picture.

These disadvantages I remarked, sloppily, as a "joke".

C
FF is a niche market in the grand scheme and why would Pentax try and break into it? They instead tackled a much smaller market where they can make more of a splash - the MF. If you want FF< go buy a 645 and you will have all the IQ you need. Pentax did announce some new lenses this year, and to be honest, they don't have many holes in their lineup except at the superlong end of things (which very few people will buy).

You can really complain about just anything, can't you? The funny thing is, I have yet to see you post a picture that required any of this super-expensive technology to create. You are a master of comparing specifications, but a complete novice at photography.
Sorry Rice, but I have to say that I agree with Bandy, Chris and Joseph in their opinion.
We do not need another Canicon on the market. Pentax is working were there is a place for him, a place with some money (slr) and technology (645). They try to do their best in these areas.
And I don't feel they need more and more gears... They have already a lot of gears that corresponds to any need, and at a very good price.
For me, Kr is a good position in the low price marker, and certainly the best at its price... Even if it is only a small evolution of Kx.
K5 is also a evolution of k7, but still better that the new Canikons! Pentax get less than 10% of the market, but their products are the best Perf/price ratio.
Honestly, I like your blog for the news, comparison, etc... But sometimes, I wonder why you are soooo bad after Pentax ?!? Realy, they are doing a good job these last years!
I suspect Pentax has already shifted their lens R&D focus to a new EVIL mount. It will take a few years to build up a lens catalog and they need to be ready when the EVF can replace the OVF. Like Olympus they are limited in resources. But don't expect them to share this until there is a near revolt like we saw from Olympus 4/3 users. The non existent roadmap and lack of new lenses is the first sign.
2 replies · active 752 weeks ago
Please can somebody, in simple words to a simple mind (I'm just a Ph.D.) explain to me what the advantages of EVIL are, other than small form factor and low cost of manufacturing? Why would a serious photographer want an EVIL?
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Michael A. · 752 weeks ago

Sure, NONE..It's another no VF today's-fashion P&S Step-Camera, in human terms.. :o)
Pentax thinks their APS-C lens lineup is "complete". So, don't expect many new lenses. Roadmaps? Forget it. You don't prepare a roadmap when you are living by the day and when you can't see a future. Let's see if Pentax survives the D3100 and D7000 first.

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