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Saturday, September 10, 2011

ISO Measurbation: Q Vs K-r Vs K-x Vs K-m (Full Size Originals)

New Q ISO test:-

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11899953@N02/sets/72157627629309900/

By Devorama, on the same target and under the same lighting condition as the previous ISO tests of his on the K-r, K-x and the K-m. And yes, this guy seems to be a die-hard Pentax supporter, he bought every Pentax new (entry) model at the very first time (and actually I also bought the K-r, K-x and K-m, but not (yet?) the Q).

Below are my previous reports on his other ISO tests, you can open other samples of the other Pentax DSLR bodies to compare and measurable endlessly:-

http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2009/10/k-x-vs-k-m-k2000-iso-measurbation.html

http://ricehigh.blogspot.com/2010/10/k-r-vs-k-x-iso-measurbations-head-to.html

Nevertheless, do note about the brief remark on the DR and exposure accuracy/latitude of the Q by the tester, quoted:-

"Some JPGs show highlight clipping even though the camera did not indicate this would happen. Perhapds the RAW file would not have clipped."

It seems that that highlight clipping problem, which is common for those small sensor DCs, also occurs for the Q.

Besides, speaking of the Q first test, Ned Bunnell, the Pentax USA President, has posted his first impressions and several lots of sample pictures at his now not-so-regularly updated blog, see:-

http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/q-samples-post-1

http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/q-samples-post-2

http://nedbunnell.posterous.com/q-samples-post-3

Take a look, the samples are not bad, but as Ned has honestly remarked, he is biased and has a stance (obviously). But actually I believe that he knows well how to use gear, and get most out of it. And he is humble enough not to tell the world about his talent of this! :-)

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I think Ned's photos show that this camera does look more DSLR like than P&S like, if not quite DSLR (perhaps entry level DSLR).

As for the highlight clipping- yes, I have corroborated the RAW file does in effect have more DR that can be mined. I also read the Q manual that is available now and found the Q just like the K-5 has a highlight priority mode. This would expose more shadow noise though, but at least it would recover at least 1/2 a stop to a full stop more highlights.

As much as his rainbow flower looks pretty decent I found his test flawed- look at the shutter speeds of the higher ISO's and they are just too fast. That's not exactly low light. A real high ISO test would be say, ISO 3200, F2.8 at 1/30th-1/60th. Now that's a tough lower light situation.

Near all cameras I have used when shot in good light, even at high ISO they do better than they normally would in situations typical of wanting to use that high ISO- like say a party at home at night under moderate light with lamps, etc. I would love if he could repeat the test under lower light.
"I think Ned's photos show that this camera does look more DSLR like than P&S like, if not quite DSLR (perhaps entry level DSLR). "

Which year entry-level DSLR? Nikon D3100 is entry level but it's IQ, especially high ISO, is very good.

IQ actually is not different between an entry level-DSLR and semi-pro one. Usually build quality and features are different.
2 replies · active 706 weeks ago
Some entry levels in recent past or now. Yes, high ISO the other cameras will pull ahead, but some of those shots at the lower ISO look more DSLR than P&S. That's all I am saying
From before or now. Point is the Q is showing images that are not exactly coming from a P&S class camera, even if that means staying at ISO 800 and below. I mean, by ISO 400 many point and shoots are already pretty bad.
In good light, even the entry level DSLR like a $500 K-x, can produce ISO 3200 shots that show little noise.
Good point, Raist3d, about "testing" high ISO in good light. Huge difference in quality when the light level is low.

There's no way the Q could be like an entry level DSLR or anything with an APSC sensor unless you are comparing with older models with old sensor technology. Your suggestion is flawed. Have a look at the quality of shots made with the Sony Nex 5N. That should be a good indication of what new entry level DSLRs will have very soon.
1 reply · active 706 weeks ago
Meh, I have a K-5 and a lot of experiences with DSLR so I still stand by what I said. I am not saying the Q is the equivalent of a DSLR per se, but that it can take shots that have that kind of quality. As I mentioned above, by ISO 400 many Point and shoots give up, and here we have at least two ISO 800 shots.
Hey, there. This is Devorama, the one that shot the Q vs. XZ-1 and the other tests. I just wanted to mention that the latest test was not run under the same lighting conditions as the other two tests. In fact, I'm not even sure I had identical lighting between the first and second tests. But for the earlier tests I used a softer light. For the Q test, I used bare bulbs to try to give a harder shadow so there would be more fine detail in the plush fabric to see. So please don't make any comparisons between the 3 sets of tests, as the conditions are not comparable. If only I had a studio like Imaging Resource or dpreview where I could leave the flower unmoved for years to take tests in identical conditions!
1 reply · active 704 weeks ago
There is no "identical condition" in reality, say, even the target objects will deteriorate over time.

Btw, your this set of test pictures are already good enough, even that they are inspected on their own per camera set.

Good job, guy! See u~

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